I had a chat with Jon Schwabish on The PolicyViz Podcast. We talked about the new book and more generally, how data visualization changed over the past couple decades.

You also get to hear me realize in real-time that I had not talked about these things out loud in a long while.

I mean it’s great and you should definitely listen. Jon’s podcast has been in my listening queue for years, so it was fun to be in an episode.