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		<title>By: Urban Mechanic</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-42163</link>
		<dc:creator>Urban Mechanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this would be a great data set to utilized small multiples to explain. Perhaps a hundred small water drops (colored according to breakdown of fresh, frozen, polluted, and etc.) with a single water drop out of the hundred blown-up and subdivided further to explain the finite break down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this would be a great data set to utilized small multiples to explain. Perhaps a hundred small water drops (colored according to breakdown of fresh, frozen, polluted, and etc.) with a single water drop out of the hundred blown-up and subdivided further to explain the finite break down.</p>
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		<title>By: MPS</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-42080</link>
		<dc:creator>MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someone already said this but the way to do this is as follows:

You start with some circle (or square, etc.) whose area represents the total amount of water, and you color the fraction that is fresh.  Then you draw lines guiding the eye from the small colored spot to another large circle (etc.) which now represents the fresh water, and you color the fraction that is groundwater.  And then repeat.

I&#039;ve seen this done before, and I think it&#039;s as good as any other method I&#039;ve seen for helping people visualize repeatedly taking small fractions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone already said this but the way to do this is as follows:</p>
<p>You start with some circle (or square, etc.) whose area represents the total amount of water, and you color the fraction that is fresh.  Then you draw lines guiding the eye from the small colored spot to another large circle (etc.) which now represents the fresh water, and you color the fraction that is groundwater.  And then repeat.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this done before, and I think it&#8217;s as good as any other method I&#8217;ve seen for helping people visualize repeatedly taking small fractions.</p>
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		<title>By: MPS</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-42079</link>
		<dc:creator>MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude right about that it says it&#039;s drawing from 1%, so 0.08% is right -- the fraction is 0.0008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude right about that it says it&#8217;s drawing from 1%, so 0.08% is right &#8212; the fraction is 0.0008.</p>
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		<title>By: Flowchart despre apa potabila &#124; 34Life - Tree for life</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-41849</link>
		<dc:creator>Flowchart despre apa potabila &#124; 34Life - Tree for life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JamesScottSomers</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-41703</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesScottSomers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is OK but the font/ colours are wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Gilkeson</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-41654</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Gilkeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, VK

The National Geographic bit is nicely done, and tells a different story:
- they also say 97.5% is salt water, 2.5% fresh (agree)
- of that 2.5%, 60% is ice, 10% is surface water, like lakes and rivers, and 30% is groundwater (but some too deep to get at) (why does this graphic lump surface water--a major source of the water we use--with ice?)
- 70% agricultural, 22% industrial, 8% &quot;pumped into cities for drinking, washing and watering&quot; (how does 8% turn into 0.08%? some earlier commenters noticed it, but that&#039;s a two orders of magnitude error in the punch line!)

National Geographic doesn&#039;t attempt to say how much of the 40% of unfrozen fresh water is used for agriculture, industry and domestic purposes, so the 1% in the graphic comes from somewhere else.

So partly it looks like there are two loosely connected stories here: one about where water is distributed on the planet, and the other about human use of water. Each story is clear by itself, but I don&#039;t understand what I&#039;m supposed to get from the connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, VK</p>
<p>The National Geographic bit is nicely done, and tells a different story:<br />
- they also say 97.5% is salt water, 2.5% fresh (agree)<br />
- of that 2.5%, 60% is ice, 10% is surface water, like lakes and rivers, and 30% is groundwater (but some too deep to get at) (why does this graphic lump surface water&#8211;a major source of the water we use&#8211;with ice?)<br />
- 70% agricultural, 22% industrial, 8% &#8220;pumped into cities for drinking, washing and watering&#8221; (how does 8% turn into 0.08%? some earlier commenters noticed it, but that&#8217;s a two orders of magnitude error in the punch line!)</p>
<p>National Geographic doesn&#8217;t attempt to say how much of the 40% of unfrozen fresh water is used for agriculture, industry and domestic purposes, so the 1% in the graphic comes from somewhere else.</p>
<p>So partly it looks like there are two loosely connected stories here: one about where water is distributed on the planet, and the other about human use of water. Each story is clear by itself, but I don&#8217;t understand what I&#8217;m supposed to get from the connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tackett</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-41646</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Tackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nathan, 

Thank you so much for taking note of our graphic and inviting your community to offer feedback. The comments here so far are great and will be useful for us on future graphics. I would love to work with you to build a new graphic to build on the thoughts shared here. Please email me if you&#039;d be interested in collaborating. We would update our post with the new graphic and tell the story about how you and your readers helped us in that process.

I&#039;m also working on a post to put on TreeHugger that will point to yours and invite additional comments on the graphic. 

Cheers,
Chris Tackett
Social Media Editor
TreeHugger.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nathan, </p>
<p>Thank you so much for taking note of our graphic and inviting your community to offer feedback. The comments here so far are great and will be useful for us on future graphics. I would love to work with you to build a new graphic to build on the thoughts shared here. Please email me if you&#8217;d be interested in collaborating. We would update our post with the new graphic and tell the story about how you and your readers helped us in that process.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also working on a post to put on TreeHugger that will point to yours and invite additional comments on the graphic. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Chris Tackett<br />
Social Media Editor<br />
TreeHugger.com</p>
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		<title>By: Drinkable water in the world &#171; Luca&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-41644</link>
		<dc:creator>Drinkable water in the world &#171; Luca&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Água bebível no mundo&#160;&#124;&#160;Galera SDK</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/discuss-drinkable-water-in-the-world/#comment-41636</link>
		<dc:creator>Água bebível no mundo&#160;&#124;&#160;Galera SDK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are all kinds of problems, but the main one is that the percentages keep changing meaning. First a proportion of the Earth&#039;s surface area, then two mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive proportions of the total volume of water, then three not-mutually-exclusive proportions of all fresh water, then two mutually exclusive but not-collectively-exhaustive proportions of all potable water, then one proportion of all fresh water(!). 

All leading to the conclusion that a small proportion of all fresh water is available for domestic use - so why start with all water on Earth?

Of course, fixing the graphic wouldn&#039;t cause the premise to make sense. Implicitly, it says that the amount of currently potable water is what matters, but both humans and mother nature create potable water from non-potable water all the time. So water supply for human domestic use is not a stock, it&#039;s a flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are all kinds of problems, but the main one is that the percentages keep changing meaning. First a proportion of the Earth&#8217;s surface area, then two mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive proportions of the total volume of water, then three not-mutually-exclusive proportions of all fresh water, then two mutually exclusive but not-collectively-exhaustive proportions of all potable water, then one proportion of all fresh water(!). </p>
<p>All leading to the conclusion that a small proportion of all fresh water is available for domestic use &#8211; so why start with all water on Earth?</p>
<p>Of course, fixing the graphic wouldn&#8217;t cause the premise to make sense. Implicitly, it says that the amount of currently potable water is what matters, but both humans and mother nature create potable water from non-potable water all the time. So water supply for human domestic use is not a stock, it&#8217;s a flow.</p>
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