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	<title>Comments on: Battle of the Coverage Maps: Verizon vs. AT&amp;T</title>
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		<title>By: non at&#38;t or verizon user</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38322</link>
		<dc:creator>non at&#38;t or verizon user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Verizon is CDMA. The iPhone is GSM. VZW is not big enough to justify designing a whole new (six new) phones for one carrier in one country. Please. Itâ€™s on AT&amp;T because they are the ONLY carrier in the US that conforms to standard GSM protocols and frequencies.&quot;

just thought I would let you know that the iphone is now available for Bell and Telus in Canada who I believe are both CDMA networks, was originally only available to Rogers/Fido which are GSM/UMTS, so the fact that the iphone is still only available through AT&amp;T has everything to do with the joint contractual agreement between AT&amp;T and Apple and not the technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Verizon is CDMA. The iPhone is GSM. VZW is not big enough to justify designing a whole new (six new) phones for one carrier in one country. Please. Itâ€™s on AT&amp;T because they are the ONLY carrier in the US that conforms to standard GSM protocols and frequencies.&#8221;</p>
<p>just thought I would let you know that the iphone is now available for Bell and Telus in Canada who I believe are both CDMA networks, was originally only available to Rogers/Fido which are GSM/UMTS, so the fact that the iphone is still only available through AT&amp;T has everything to do with the joint contractual agreement between AT&amp;T and Apple and not the technology</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Wills</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38299</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;then the maps are kind of misleading, because they imply that Verizon and AT&amp;T are on the same kind of technology and that Verizon pretty much has more towers which is not the case at all.&quot;

That is exactly correct.

If you want the best reception in the boonies with non-smartphones, Verizon might be a good option for you. Just realize a few things.

1.  Your upgrade cycle will be slower, so if you break your phone, you&#039;re less likely to get a free replacement.
2.  Your phone quality will be lower, as all the good phones are manufactured for GSM.
3.  When VZW does finally flip to LTE, you WILL (not might, could, should) have to buy a new phone to use what you already have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;then the maps are kind of misleading, because they imply that Verizon and AT&amp;T are on the same kind of technology and that Verizon pretty much has more towers which is not the case at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is exactly correct.</p>
<p>If you want the best reception in the boonies with non-smartphones, Verizon might be a good option for you. Just realize a few things.</p>
<p>1.  Your upgrade cycle will be slower, so if you break your phone, you&#8217;re less likely to get a free replacement.<br />
2.  Your phone quality will be lower, as all the good phones are manufactured for GSM.<br />
3.  When VZW does finally flip to LTE, you WILL (not might, could, should) have to buy a new phone to use what you already have.</p>
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		<title>By: hectorartm</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38293</link>
		<dc:creator>hectorartm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried Sprint, Verizon and ATT.  I&#039;ve lived in several cities due to job advancements.  Verizon, so far, has been the most reliable.  Also, when I used to be in the mil, I had better service with Verizon.  Verizon is the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried Sprint, Verizon and ATT.  I&#8217;ve lived in several cities due to job advancements.  Verizon, so far, has been the most reliable.  Also, when I used to be in the mil, I had better service with Verizon.  Verizon is the best.</p>
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		<title>By: non at&#38;t or verizon user</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38233</link>
		<dc:creator>non at&#38;t or verizon user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so, not trying to start anything too technical here ... but aren&#039;t Verizon&#039;s 3g and AT&amp;T&#039;s 3g completely different technologies? ...

and, with this being said, isn&#039;t the &quot;3g&quot; that verizon is using merely a data overlay to their CDMA network, very similar to that of EDGE on the GSM network only faster?

and if i&#039;m not mistaken AT&amp;T has GSM with EDGE pretty much everywhere and then in addition to this, their 3g service is UMTS which is not merely a data overlay but a whole different technology again which also now has HSPA to improve the data?

and if this is the case ... then the maps are kind of misleading, because they imply that Verizon and AT&amp;T are on the same kind of technology and that Verizon pretty much has more towers which is not the case at all.

Just a thought, I don&#039;t have service with either provider, so it&#039;s of no concern to me, although I have been enjoying watching the two comapnies slate each other with their ads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so, not trying to start anything too technical here &#8230; but aren&#8217;t Verizon&#8217;s 3g and AT&amp;T&#8217;s 3g completely different technologies? &#8230;</p>
<p>and, with this being said, isn&#8217;t the &#8220;3g&#8221; that verizon is using merely a data overlay to their CDMA network, very similar to that of EDGE on the GSM network only faster?</p>
<p>and if i&#8217;m not mistaken AT&amp;T has GSM with EDGE pretty much everywhere and then in addition to this, their 3g service is UMTS which is not merely a data overlay but a whole different technology again which also now has HSPA to improve the data?</p>
<p>and if this is the case &#8230; then the maps are kind of misleading, because they imply that Verizon and AT&amp;T are on the same kind of technology and that Verizon pretty much has more towers which is not the case at all.</p>
<p>Just a thought, I don&#8217;t have service with either provider, so it&#8217;s of no concern to me, although I have been enjoying watching the two comapnies slate each other with their ads!</p>
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		<title>By: A.</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38230</link>
		<dc:creator>A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, really? are you about 12 years old and not able to spell or construct actual sentences?

your opinion should be void seeing as how you have no factual information to back up anything you say besides &quot;it suks dik.&quot;

grow up and learn how to spell, or if you are younger than 18, start paying attention in class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, really? are you about 12 years old and not able to spell or construct actual sentences?</p>
<p>your opinion should be void seeing as how you have no factual information to back up anything you say besides &#8220;it suks dik.&#8221;</p>
<p>grow up and learn how to spell, or if you are younger than 18, start paying attention in class.</p>
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		<title>By: at&#38;t suks</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38229</link>
		<dc:creator>at&#38;t suks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no non no at&amp;t suks no matter what wow iphone big deal it suks dik my cuzin has it and he liked it at first but everything is too slow uknow what phone is best......MOTOROLA DROID VERIZON WIRELESS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no non no at&amp;t suks no matter what wow iphone big deal it suks dik my cuzin has it and he liked it at first but everything is too slow uknow what phone is best&#8230;&#8230;MOTOROLA DROID VERIZON WIRELESS</p>
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		<title>By: t.h.</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38190</link>
		<dc:creator>t.h.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really amazed at how ignorant some people are, and how they can be mislead and tugged around by the nose by the media or some &quot;lying&quot; ad by some has been actor (at&amp;t). The truth is, if you LISTEN to it is...who has the &quot;BEST&quot; 3G coverage...not who has the most coverage. (Ignorance here)...I am an at&amp;t customer who is switching to Verizon because at&amp;t lies and their customer service sucks. I lived in DC and had 3g coverage but, when my job relocated me to SE Ga., there is no at&amp;t 3g coverage just as the map depicts and there is barely any at&amp;t coverage period but...Verizon has all bars down here plus, 3g...and while i was in the Verizon store, several at&amp;t customers were in there doing the same thing...dropping at&amp;t. Oh and by the way...when we went across the street in the shopping plaza and...the at&amp;t store was empty and had no clue to if they would ever get 3g coverage in SE or central Ga. The ads are true and you can prove it yourself just by driving up and down I-95. Verizon is telling the truth and at&amp;t needs to get over it and just get better service...i am living proof that the ads are real...sooooo....to those, stop being ignorant and do the research before you voice an opinion cause they aren&#039;t facts...and if you are wondering, i have the i-phone and a blackberry bold...and am switching to the Blackberry Storm 2!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really amazed at how ignorant some people are, and how they can be mislead and tugged around by the nose by the media or some &#8220;lying&#8221; ad by some has been actor (at&amp;t). The truth is, if you LISTEN to it is&#8230;who has the &#8220;BEST&#8221; 3G coverage&#8230;not who has the most coverage. (Ignorance here)&#8230;I am an at&amp;t customer who is switching to Verizon because at&amp;t lies and their customer service sucks. I lived in DC and had 3g coverage but, when my job relocated me to SE Ga., there is no at&amp;t 3g coverage just as the map depicts and there is barely any at&amp;t coverage period but&#8230;Verizon has all bars down here plus, 3g&#8230;and while i was in the Verizon store, several at&amp;t customers were in there doing the same thing&#8230;dropping at&amp;t. Oh and by the way&#8230;when we went across the street in the shopping plaza and&#8230;the at&amp;t store was empty and had no clue to if they would ever get 3g coverage in SE or central Ga. The ads are true and you can prove it yourself just by driving up and down I-95. Verizon is telling the truth and at&amp;t needs to get over it and just get better service&#8230;i am living proof that the ads are real&#8230;sooooo&#8230;.to those, stop being ignorant and do the research before you voice an opinion cause they aren&#8217;t facts&#8230;and if you are wondering, i have the i-phone and a blackberry bold&#8230;and am switching to the Blackberry Storm 2!!!</p>
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		<title>By: No Biggie</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38187</link>
		<dc:creator>No Biggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verizon&#039;s map shows no ATT 3G service in my area, too, but have had it for quite a while.

I have my iPhone which I like. I have the ATT service which serves me well all over the country where I travel.

I like what I have so I keep it. I really don&#039;t care what others use, so I&#039;m really stumped as to why some folks seem to get really upset over which phone and service other people use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon&#8217;s map shows no ATT 3G service in my area, too, but have had it for quite a while.</p>
<p>I have my iPhone which I like. I have the ATT service which serves me well all over the country where I travel.</p>
<p>I like what I have so I keep it. I really don&#8217;t care what others use, so I&#8217;m really stumped as to why some folks seem to get really upset over which phone and service other people use.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel Pimentel</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38171</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel Pimentel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Att was smart by changing technology when no body gave a crap about Cell Phones, Text Msg or Data. on the other hand Verizon biggest mistake was not to change back when Att did it. once Verizon changes to the LTE Technology even T-mobil will be more reliable. That kind of change on monster Company like Verizon Signify major problems&lt; For example new divices, the training for the emplyees, new prices to support the maintenance of the upgraded towers, drop calls in massive quantities, a lot of unhappy customers and the most important of all Billions and Billions of dollar in expences. That happen to Att when they did the changed to GSM but in a much smaller scale and much smaller market that the one Verizon will face..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Att was smart by changing technology when no body gave a crap about Cell Phones, Text Msg or Data. on the other hand Verizon biggest mistake was not to change back when Att did it. once Verizon changes to the LTE Technology even T-mobil will be more reliable. That kind of change on monster Company like Verizon Signify major problems&lt; For example new divices, the training for the emplyees, new prices to support the maintenance of the upgraded towers, drop calls in massive quantities, a lot of unhappy customers and the most important of all Billions and Billions of dollar in expences. That happen to Att when they did the changed to GSM but in a much smaller scale and much smaller market that the one Verizon will face..</p>
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		<title>By: Angel Pimentel</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2009/11/24/verizon-vs-att-battle-of-the-coverage-maps/#comment-38170</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel Pimentel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iphone and Verizon deal will never happen, for one simple reason only 3% of the countries in the world use CDMA which is the old wireless technology, 97% uses GSM the new and the future technology, therefore a CDMA Iphone is a waste of money, even if they do a Iphone with a Sim card for Verizon, like verizon is doing with their new devices, it wont be GSM it would be iden which is not compatiable with GSM or better known in other countries as UMTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iphone and Verizon deal will never happen, for one simple reason only 3% of the countries in the world use CDMA which is the old wireless technology, 97% uses GSM the new and the future technology, therefore a CDMA Iphone is a waste of money, even if they do a Iphone with a Sim card for Verizon, like verizon is doing with their new devices, it wont be GSM it would be iden which is not compatiable with GSM or better known in other countries as UMTS.</p>
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