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		<title>By: Links sobre charts de Excel &#171; OptimizaciÃ³n y EstadÃ­stica</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-16131</link>
		<dc:creator>Links sobre charts de Excel &#171; OptimizaciÃ³n y EstadÃ­stica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-07-31 &#171; Computer Learning Resources</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-12194</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-07-31 &#171; Computer Learning Resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thinking about data visualization for journalists &#124; Sixth W</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-12140</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinking about data visualization for journalists &#124; Sixth W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flowing Data recently challenged their readers to improve this chart: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Excel Links of the week &#124; Pointy Haired Dilbert - Chandoo.org</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-11900</link>
		<dc:creator>Excel Links of the week &#124; Pointy Haired Dilbert - Chandoo.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nathan at Flowing data shares insights from his experiment to modify a mediocre chart. Most of the examples are based on Excel, go take a look at them to get some pretty cool charting [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-11677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tyler&#039;s has a simplictic way of showing the relevant information. I also liked Kevin&#039;s incorporation of the presidential winner into the mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tyler&#8217;s has a simplictic way of showing the relevant information. I also liked Kevin&#8217;s incorporation of the presidential winner into the mix.</p>
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		<title>By: JulianF</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-11306</link>
		<dc:creator>JulianF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it was Tyler first, and then David. Tyler by a nose because of his majority line but hmmmm...the proportional sizes of those bars in David&#039;s efforts are pretty good. 
Great effort all, and a very good exercise. Another one please!

Cheers, 
Julian F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it was Tyler first, and then David. Tyler by a nose because of his majority line but hmmmm&#8230;the proportional sizes of those bars in David&#8217;s efforts are pretty good.<br />
Great effort all, and a very good exercise. Another one please!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Julian F</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-07-26 &#171; test</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-07-26 &#171; test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert 'Groby' Blum</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-11171</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert 'Groby' Blum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really depends on what you want to say with your graph. If you&#039;re going to show that voters have become disenchanted with political parties, yours does by *far* the best job - it&#039;s immediately obvious that both parties are losing to independent/decline to say.

If you want to pitch something to both parties without having to change your slides, pick Amos - neutral title, and by keeping &quot;declined to say&quot; in the middle, it&#039;s easy to show a (potential) majority for either side.

Jorge&#039;s is a great way to show that the state is &quot;ready to turn&quot;.

That&#039;s a question that&#039;s left out surprisingly often in the discussion of graphs - the intended message matters, a lot. There is no &quot;pure data&quot;. 

Best advice I ever got at university was &quot;If you&#039;re creating a graph or a statistical analysis, know both what you want to say and the recipient wants to hear&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really depends on what you want to say with your graph. If you&#8217;re going to show that voters have become disenchanted with political parties, yours does by *far* the best job &#8211; it&#8217;s immediately obvious that both parties are losing to independent/decline to say.</p>
<p>If you want to pitch something to both parties without having to change your slides, pick Amos &#8211; neutral title, and by keeping &#8220;declined to say&#8221; in the middle, it&#8217;s easy to show a (potential) majority for either side.</p>
<p>Jorge&#8217;s is a great way to show that the state is &#8220;ready to turn&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a question that&#8217;s left out surprisingly often in the discussion of graphs &#8211; the intended message matters, a lot. There is no &#8220;pure data&#8221;. </p>
<p>Best advice I ever got at university was &#8220;If you&#8217;re creating a graph or a statistical analysis, know both what you want to say and the recipient wants to hear&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-11169</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That these charts show different things depending on &quot;county&quot; or &quot;voter&quot; as the unit of comparison illustrates how the measure itself could be deceptive. Is &quot;county&quot; even a relevant unit for analysis? 

How about a table?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That these charts show different things depending on &#8220;county&#8221; or &#8220;voter&#8221; as the unit of comparison illustrates how the measure itself could be deceptive. Is &#8220;county&#8221; even a relevant unit for analysis? </p>
<p>How about a table?</p>
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		<title>By: Chandoo</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/07/25/theres-more-than-one-way-to-skin-a%e2%80%a6-dataset/#comment-11079</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@charlie... I figured it...

[quote]
Here are the key flaws to the original that you all caught:

   1. The x-axis tick marks were in really weird places;
   2. The y-axis label was misleading because the data were number of counties;
   3. Red and blue would make more sense for Democrats and Republicans;
   4. Counts for counties don&#039;t match the years, because they are reversed;
   5. We see a different story when we bring in data for undecided &quot;other&quot; and &quot;declined to declare.&quot;

[/quote]

looks like Nathan already pointed it in the top at flaw 4 - says the years were reversed in the original chart..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@charlie&#8230; I figured it&#8230;</p>
<p>[quote]<br />
Here are the key flaws to the original that you all caught:</p>
<p>   1. The x-axis tick marks were in really weird places;<br />
   2. The y-axis label was misleading because the data were number of counties;<br />
   3. Red and blue would make more sense for Democrats and Republicans;<br />
   4. Counts for counties don&#8217;t match the years, because they are reversed;<br />
   5. We see a different story when we bring in data for undecided &#8220;other&#8221; and &#8220;declined to declare.&#8221;</p>
<p>[/quote]</p>
<p>looks like Nathan already pointed it in the top at flaw 4 &#8211; says the years were reversed in the original chart..</p>
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