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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Excel Can&#8217;t Handle Clinton and Obama&#8217;s Moola</title>
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	<description>Strength in Numbers</description>
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		<title>By: Danyel Fisher</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/28/microsoft-excel-cant-handle-clinton-and-obamas-moola/#comment-50494</link>
		<dc:creator>Danyel Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To do the Excel/SQL thing, just look at the Data tab and the &quot;From Other Sources&quot; dropdown. It&#039;ll bring up an ODBC dialog, and you can use that to point to an SQL table.

I tend to create specialized views that reflect what I want to show inside Excel so that I don&#039;t need to filter inside Excel.

(This also works wonderfully with PivotCharts.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To do the Excel/SQL thing, just look at the Data tab and the &#8220;From Other Sources&#8221; dropdown. It&#8217;ll bring up an ODBC dialog, and you can use that to point to an SQL table.</p>
<p>I tend to create specialized views that reflect what I want to show inside Excel so that I don&#8217;t need to filter inside Excel.</p>
<p>(This also works wonderfully with PivotCharts.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ekaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ekaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 09:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon - Unfortunately Excel 2007 can&#039;t handle &#039;millions of rows&#039;, but rather about 1 million. Yes - I&#039;ve bumped into this limit more than once.

Jon&#039;s suggestion to use Excel in conjunction with a database sounds interesting... Any pointers to tutorials on how to do this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon &#8211; Unfortunately Excel 2007 can&#8217;t handle &#8216;millions of rows&#8217;, but rather about 1 million. Yes &#8211; I&#8217;ve bumped into this limit more than once.</p>
<p>Jon&#8217;s suggestion to use Excel in conjunction with a database sounds interesting&#8230; Any pointers to tutorials on how to do this?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/28/microsoft-excel-cant-handle-clinton-and-obamas-moola/#comment-50492</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nathan: What response had you expected? Excel isn&#039;t a database (though it&#039;s great for analyzing databases), and people are blaming Excel for having this shortcoming, rather than using the proper tool for the job (the proper spanner to pound in the bolt?).

@Pierce: So why not use Excel 2003 and SQL to analyze the database? Excel makes a decent front end. I&#039;ve used Excel/SQL to analyze Access databases, all manner of text dumps, and even other Excel workbooks. Filter the data before it even gets into Excel, and it will go much faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nathan: What response had you expected? Excel isn&#8217;t a database (though it&#8217;s great for analyzing databases), and people are blaming Excel for having this shortcoming, rather than using the proper tool for the job (the proper spanner to pound in the bolt?).</p>
<p>@Pierce: So why not use Excel 2003 and SQL to analyze the database? Excel makes a decent front end. I&#8217;ve used Excel/SQL to analyze Access databases, all manner of text dumps, and even other Excel workbooks. Filter the data before it even gets into Excel, and it will go much faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierce Presley</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/28/microsoft-excel-cant-handle-clinton-and-obamas-moola/#comment-50491</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierce Presley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This raises the question of why the FEC is using Excel 2K3 as its main computing tool, rather than an SQL flavor. Don&#039;t get me wrong, Excel is great and I use it for all sorts of things, including things that would be better on a database, because I&#039;m more comfortable with Excel. But this is a federal agency with a budget and the ability to put the data in the proper container, not a once and future journalist in his home office with a cobbled-together collection of outdated commercial and more recent free software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This raises the question of why the FEC is using Excel 2K3 as its main computing tool, rather than an SQL flavor. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Excel is great and I use it for all sorts of things, including things that would be better on a database, because I&#8217;m more comfortable with Excel. But this is a federal agency with a budget and the ability to put the data in the proper container, not a once and future journalist in his home office with a cobbled-together collection of outdated commercial and more recent free software.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Yau</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/28/microsoft-excel-cant-handle-clinton-and-obamas-moola/#comment-50490</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Yau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aj: a valid question, but like jon said, when you&#039;re dealing with a spreadsheet with hundreds of thousands of rows, Excel will work in the sense that it&#039;ll load, but the usability is just painful. So while excel can &quot;handle&quot; large datasets, it can&#039;t really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aj: a valid question, but like jon said, when you&#8217;re dealing with a spreadsheet with hundreds of thousands of rows, Excel will work in the sense that it&#8217;ll load, but the usability is just painful. So while excel can &#8220;handle&#8221; large datasets, it can&#8217;t really.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Yau</title>
		<link>http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/28/microsoft-excel-cant-handle-clinton-and-obamas-moola/#comment-50489</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Yau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon: as i was writing this post, i thought of you. i was expecting a slightly different reaction :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon: as i was writing this post, i thought of you. i was expecting a slightly different reaction :)</p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why title it &quot;Excel cant handle ... &quot; ?? Isnt it better to be honest and say Excell 2003 cant handle some data? I mean, what will people do next to get their blog readership up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why title it &#8220;Excel cant handle &#8230; &#8221; ?? Isnt it better to be honest and say Excell 2003 cant handle some data? I mean, what will people do next to get their blog readership up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to trash Excel and Microsoft again. People are using a spreadsheet application as a database, and running into problems!  Why couldn&#039;t Excel work like a database, instead of a spreadsheet? Obviously a flaw in Microsoft&#039;s design, not in our usage of the tools.

At least if you upgrade to Excel 2007, you&#039;ll have millions of rows, plenty of room. Never mind how slowly it will run, you get special visual effects which are so kewl, d00d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to trash Excel and Microsoft again. People are using a spreadsheet application as a database, and running into problems!  Why couldn&#8217;t Excel work like a database, instead of a spreadsheet? Obviously a flaw in Microsoft&#8217;s design, not in our usage of the tools.</p>
<p>At least if you upgrade to Excel 2007, you&#8217;ll have millions of rows, plenty of room. Never mind how slowly it will run, you get special visual effects which are so kewl, d00d</p>
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