Comments on: Measuring Informational Distance Between Cities http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/ Strength in Numbers Wed, 23 May 2012 01:27:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Alexander Baxevanis http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50414 Alexander Baxevanis Fri, 23 May 2008 06:41:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50414 Hi Santiago, many thanks for making the data available. As soon as I find some time I will experiment with some different visualisations, and if anything interesting comes out of it I'm going to blog about it & let you know (and of course I will always acknowledge your contribution of the data) Regards, Alex Hi Santiago,

many thanks for making the data available. As soon as I find some time I will experiment with some different visualisations, and if anything interesting comes out of it I’m going to blog about it & let you know (and of course I will always acknowledge your contribution of the data)

Regards,
Alex

]]> By: santiago ortiz http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50413 santiago ortiz Thu, 22 May 2008 20:17:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50413 Alex, I first thought that explain the algorithm was much more than putting the data (in some way the first contains the second). But is true that code this is not so simple (there are some math issues, and some technical issues.. for example I had to use a php on server to access google info because of permissions). So, now it is possible to download the table of pairs of cities, with geographical coordinates, google distances, informational distances and weight of relations (see below the explanation). One of the purposes of publish experiments and drafts is to generate this kind of dialogue and reflexion. Thanks, Santiago Alex,

I first thought that explain the algorithm was much more than putting the data (in some way the first contains the second). But is true that code this is not so simple (there are some math issues, and some technical issues.. for example I had to use a php on server to access google info because of permissions).

So, now it is possible to download the table of pairs of cities, with geographical coordinates, google distances, informational distances and weight of relations (see below the explanation).

One of the purposes of publish experiments and drafts is to generate this kind of dialogue and reflexion.

Thanks,

Santiago

]]> By: Alexander Baxevanis http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4790 Alexander Baxevanis Thu, 22 May 2008 16:21:12 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4790 Hi Santiago, I do agree that it's a great idea to look into how cities may be related. I also really appreciate that you publish your algorithm. Is there any chance that you can also publish the results of the calculation for the pairs of cities that you currently have, so that people can experiment with other kinds of visualisation? Cheers, Alex Hi Santiago,

I do agree that it’s a great idea to look into how cities may be related. I also really appreciate that you publish your algorithm. Is there any chance that you can also publish the results of the calculation for the pairs of cities that you currently have, so that people can experiment with other kinds of visualisation?

Cheers,
Alex

]]> By: Alexander Baxevanis http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50412 Alexander Baxevanis Thu, 22 May 2008 16:21:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50412 Hi Santiago, I do agree that it's a great idea to look into how cities may be related. I also really appreciate that you publish your algorithm. Is there any chance that you can also publish the results of the calculation for the pairs of cities that you currently have, so that people can experiment with other kinds of visualisation? Cheers, Alex Hi Santiago,

I do agree that it’s a great idea to look into how cities may be related. I also really appreciate that you publish your algorithm. Is there any chance that you can also publish the results of the calculation for the pairs of cities that you currently have, so that people can experiment with other kinds of visualisation?

Cheers,
Alex

]]> By: santiago ortiz http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4788 santiago ortiz Thu, 22 May 2008 15:57:19 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4788 Alexander: I agree with you. Information Distances is only an experiment. And is not really about visualization, but about different ways to look for, create or transform data, and how to interpret it. It is also what I call a "exquisite fetus", that is an incomplete work where people can see different potentialities and opportunities. Alexander: I agree with you. Information Distances is only an experiment. And is not really about visualization, but about different ways to look for, create or transform data, and how to interpret it.

It is also what I call a “exquisite fetus”, that is an incomplete work where people can see different potentialities and opportunities.

]]> By: santiago ortiz http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50410 santiago ortiz Thu, 22 May 2008 15:57:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50410 Alexander: I agree with you. Information Distances is only an experiment. And is not really about visualization, but about different ways to look for, create or transform data, and how to interpret it. It is also what I call a "exquisite fetus", that is an incomplete work where people can see different potentialities and opportunities. Alexander: I agree with you. Information Distances is only an experiment. And is not really about visualization, but about different ways to look for, create or transform data, and how to interpret it.

It is also what I call a “exquisite fetus”, that is an incomplete work where people can see different potentialities and opportunities.

]]> By: santiago ortiz http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50411 santiago ortiz Thu, 22 May 2008 15:57:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50411 Alexander: I agree with you. Information Distances is only an experiment. And is not really about visualization, but about different ways to look for, create or transform data, and how to interpret it. It is also what I call a "exquisite fetus", that is an incomplete work where people can see different potentialities and opportunities. Alexander: I agree with you. Information Distances is only an experiment. And is not really about visualization, but about different ways to look for, create or transform data, and how to interpret it.

It is also what I call a “exquisite fetus”, that is an incomplete work where people can see different potentialities and opportunities.

]]> By: Alexander Baxevanis http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4780 Alexander Baxevanis Thu, 22 May 2008 12:04:40 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4780 I'm sorry but this is one of the worst cases of visualisation I've seen recently. There is no way to actually see which two cities are connected and to visually compare two different pairs of cities. The only thing I can tell is that London & New York seem to have a pretty strong connection, which is expected anyway! What would have been rather straightforward to show on a flat world map gets destroyed because of a flashy 3d viz. I wish they put the raw data somewhere so people could experiment with different alternatives. I’m sorry but this is one of the worst cases of visualisation I’ve seen recently. There is no way to actually see which two cities are connected and to visually compare two different pairs of cities. The only thing I can tell is that London & New York seem to have a pretty strong connection, which is expected anyway!

What would have been rather straightforward to show on a flat world map gets destroyed because of a flashy 3d viz. I wish they put the raw data somewhere so people could experiment with different alternatives.

]]> By: Alexander Baxevanis http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50409 Alexander Baxevanis Thu, 22 May 2008 12:04:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-50409 I'm sorry but this is one of the worst cases of visualisation I've seen recently. There is no way to actually see which two cities are connected and to visually compare two different pairs of cities. The only thing I can tell is that London & New York seem to have a pretty strong connection, which is expected anyway! What would have been rather straightforward to show on a flat world map gets destroyed because of a flashy 3d viz. I wish they put the raw data somewhere so people could experiment with different alternatives. I’m sorry but this is one of the worst cases of visualisation I’ve seen recently. There is no way to actually see which two cities are connected and to visually compare two different pairs of cities. The only thing I can tell is that London & New York seem to have a pretty strong connection, which is expected anyway!

What would have been rather straightforward to show on a flat world map gets destroyed because of a flashy 3d viz. I wish they put the raw data somewhere so people could experiment with different alternatives.

]]> By: tom http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4777 tom Thu, 22 May 2008 10:47:19 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/05/22/measuring-informational-distance-between-cities/#comment-4777 what the fck ... that is really beautifull!!! good job! can someone translate it to spanish ;-) what the fck … that is really beautifull!!! good job! can someone translate it to spanish ;-)

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