Comments on: Showing the Obama-Clinton Divide in Decision Tree Infographic http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/ Strength in Numbers Wed, 23 May 2012 01:27:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: memo http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-24698 memo Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:01:01 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-24698 Horribly manipulated. By stripping out the black vote first, all of the subsequent measures are skewed. If the black vote had been at the end of the sequence the true picture of what really happened wouyld have shown. The only reason Obama won was that he got 95% of the black vote. Racism in reverse. Cutoff points also look a bit contrived. Where do they stand in relation to the overall population. Any r-squared done on this? Horribly manipulated. By stripping out the black vote first, all of the subsequent measures are skewed. If the black vote had been at the end of the sequence the true picture of what really happened wouyld have shown. The only reason Obama won was that he got 95% of the black vote. Racism in reverse. Cutoff points also look a bit contrived. Where do they stand in relation to the overall population. Any r-squared done on this?

]]> By: Charles Apple » Blog Archive » NYT spends half a million on infographics? Every month? http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-21720 Charles Apple » Blog Archive » NYT spends half a million on infographics? Every month? Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:10:38 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-21720 [...] Duenes — the NYT’s graphics director — has called Amanda the Times‘ “statistics maven.” She was one of four people who worked on this wonderful piece. She was one of three on this one. She did this one herself. [...] [...] Duenes — the NYT’s graphics director — has called Amanda the Times‘ “statistics maven.” She was one of four people who worked on this wonderful piece. She was one of three on this one. She did this one herself. [...]

]]> By: Quart http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-17537 Quart Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:40:10 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-17537 There is a lot of generalizing going on here. Education has never equaled logical reasoning. There are always grey areas. And perhaps those grey areas are much larger than a lot of you seem to perceive. There is a lot of generalizing going on here. Education has never equaled logical reasoning. There are always grey areas. And perhaps those grey areas are much larger than a lot of you seem to perceive.

]]> By: Pirate http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50237 Pirate Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:39:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50237 Bonnie: Yarr. Thank ye, lass. Oh, and lest anybody think I'm just a young idealist, I would like to point out that the one and only reason that I intend to own a lawn in my life is just so that I can yell at kids to get off it. I started saying "kids these days" when I was still in high school. Bonnie:

Yarr. Thank ye, lass. Oh, and lest anybody think I’m just a young idealist, I would like to point out that the one and only reason that I intend to own a lawn in my life is just so that I can yell at kids to get off it.

I started saying “kids these days” when I was still in high school.

]]> By: Happy One-Year Birthday, FlowingData! | FlowingData http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-6594 Happy One-Year Birthday, FlowingData! | FlowingData Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:01:49 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-6594 [...] Showing the Obama-Clinton Divide in Decision Tree Infographic [...] [...] Showing the Obama-Clinton Divide in Decision Tree Infographic [...]

]]> By: claus norby http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50236 claus norby Fri, 16 May 2008 19:27:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50236 just proves Hillary is a better republican just proves Hillary is a better republican

]]> By: Bonnie http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50234 Bonnie Thu, 15 May 2008 21:14:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50234 Pirate-- Good post, swashbuckler. Pirate–
Good post, swashbuckler.

]]> By: Bonnie http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50232 Bonnie Wed, 14 May 2008 04:04:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50232 JS. I just happen to have both a college education AND life experience--and I'm one of those "young people." You are in no position to assume that just because I happen to be in grad school with a 4.0 (not "congratulating myself," just categorizing) I am not also schooled in the streets as well. You are in no position to assume that as an "educated idiot" I have never worked, nor had experiences that taught me what it's like to have people you love die in your arms, to work 50 hours a week just to make the bills, to travel all over this country and the world and understand that this universe is much bigger than the space between your face and this computer right now. And I most certainly realize there are more people unlike me than like me (JonO), I communicate with them every day, and they challenge my resolve and push me to work harder. No, JS, I have worked my ass off both in school and out, and to imply that somehow I don't know as much as you just because I am not as old is not only rude and presumptuous, but also reflects the very difference between the intelligence of the educated (or educated/experienced) and the intelligence of the experienced--we know that knowledge and wisdom come in many forms. You think yours is the best. That is what I call--elitism. JS. I just happen to have both a college education AND life experience–and I’m one of those “young people.” You are in no position to assume that just because I happen to be in grad school with a 4.0 (not “congratulating myself,” just categorizing) I am not also schooled in the streets as well. You are in no position to assume that as an “educated idiot” I have never worked, nor had experiences that taught me what it’s like to have people you love die in your arms, to work 50 hours a week just to make the bills, to travel all over this country and the world and understand that this universe is much bigger than the space between your face and this computer right now. And I most certainly realize there are more people unlike me than like me (JonO), I communicate with them every day, and they challenge my resolve and push me to work harder. No, JS, I have worked my ass off both in school and out, and to imply that somehow I don’t know as much as you just because I am not as old is not only rude and presumptuous, but also reflects the very difference between the intelligence of the educated (or educated/experienced) and the intelligence of the experienced–we know that knowledge and wisdom come in many forms. You think yours is the best. That is what I call–elitism.

]]> By: JS http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50229 JS Wed, 07 May 2008 00:19:00 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-50229 Has anyone ever heard the term, "Educated Idiots"? Life experience is far more valuable than someone who has a college degree. The people that have put this country in this mess all had college educations. Young people may think they are so much smarter than older Americans but what do they really know? Has anyone ever heard the term, “Educated Idiots”?

Life experience is far more valuable than someone who has a college degree. The people that have put this country in this mess all had college educations. Young people may think they are so much smarter than older Americans but what do they really know?

]]> By: Friday links « …the importance of being, Andy. http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-3740 Friday links « …the importance of being, Andy. Fri, 02 May 2008 19:49:39 +0000 http://flowingdata.com/2008/04/23/showing-the-obama-clinton-divide-in-decision-tree-infographic/#comment-3740 [...] or Obama: decision tree - a pretty neat [...] [...] or Obama: decision tree – a pretty neat [...]

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